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Do you mean he is the one who created the Arabs world map?Arabs have sold sudan to Arabs world and that is exactly what we had been fighting for.
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You seem to miss something very important in this forum which , like many others,you R not aware of. Let me count myself as well until few years ago when I noticed it ,after reading an article from smart SDB member. قال سول الله محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم (من تعلم لغة قوم أمن شرهم The prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him) said '' he who learns a peoples language, safeguard's himself from their evil" this forum works as a good platform to know who your enemy is , and how he thinks & functions. As the Jewish scholar once said, to conquer the enemy know how he thinks. But to learn how he funstions you need to give him the full freedom of expression including insults. If it was not for Sudan.net you will never have heard of the Jackal or theone or Uniteus, nor would you know how they think. Alot of northerners come in this board talking of unity and how sudanese are united, until they get shocked when they see the likes of Theone & others abusing them in the board. They wake up to the reality. Then U get afroamericans like UU & afro-rebel with a mentality totally different from any african and a very weird concept. They view the world around them through a narrow vision as either black or white. I have noticed the black american can be the african's first enemy and not the white or Jew as we thought all along. i have learned I am not first enemy for some southerners, but other southerners in their tribal regions rustling over cattles. The sudan.net has thought me many things about different people that I never met in real life. When you allow unlimited freedom in the board this shows you day by day how your future foe or friend thinks and how world evolves around them. Thats how the western ruling elite understand the third world and muslim extremists, by opening the freedom of expression for extremists like abu hamza. While in Egypt, no one knows about them. Trust me the more we allow freedom, the more you understand your enemy and conquer him. By enemy, I dont mean mighty jackal nor Theone but who could be behind inciting them. And you can use them against the same enemy in the right way.
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So which enemy are you conquering? I find it hard to believe you in quoting mohammed in such talks. Can't you leave mohammed behind when you chat with audiences?
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Wonderfully said. I had no idea about anything about Sudan until I joined this board. Had no idea of people from the south resent us as much as its shown here. I mean, we all come across people who are islamophobic (people such as Theone and Mighty Jackal), thats a norm. But I had no idea about being hated this much by the people of the south. Wow, now that I think of it, i've been living in la-la land lool
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Everyone here log onto SDB from his/her respective country or residency individually. So it's impossible someone is behind inciting on other Sudanese to hate Islam and Arabs. What we all watch in the media or internet is not enough to turn one against his own good countrymen. But of course, unless one is not a deadhead islamist, there is no reason you can stop looking somewhere else to why other Sudanese hate Islam or so call Sudanese Arabs. Take a look at their thinking! ![]() "...understanding your enemy and conquer him." It's 2010 for god sake, no one still comfortable with such thinking except cult groups like Sudanese Islamists and the only things they are conquering is raping and pouring sulfuric acid on girls or blasting their classrooms. Apply the phrase 'understand the enemy and conquer him' to our Sudanese problem. In Sudan you don't have enemy to conquer but you do have citizen victims who are tired of lies and denials. Even a wild animal would naturally know others can feed on you if the head is in the hole and your long tail is left outside. Here, you don't have to stare at stars 'till they fall down and certainly there is no need to accuse other countries when you should simply go to Darfur and admit wrongdoings, ask for forgiveness and correct those misconducts, and find lasting, genuine peace ![]()
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Ana Umdur You have an interesting way of looking at it, but I see it differently. There is good reason why hateful racist incitement is outlawed worldwide. The ultimate end of this sort of rhetoric is genocide. It's precisely because of this sort of rhetoric we had bloodshed in our country for 50+ years and also witnessed terrible tragedies in places like Rwanda and the Congo, etc. Anywhere that tolerates incitement, racism and bigotry is threatened with self-destruction, just like these countries. I think it's every sane person's duty to challenge and condemn this sort of degenerate attitude and failure to tackle that is not in anyone's interest. The irony is that the primitive mindset of these bigoted and psychopathic individuals is a risk to their own people. Because when the principle of hating and targeting a whole identity (any identity) is encouraged, any identity can be a target. When the Arabs are gone, the zombies will move on to prey on some other people/tribe/sub-tribe/clan/family etc. As long as the rhetorical vehicle (incitement) is availabe, the goods will be delivered , regardless of whom the customer is. I think we should collide with this dangerous trash, head on and expose hatemongers and primitive hell bats as the slimy, contemptible and psychopathic cancer that they are.
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My contact was only with southerners raised in Khartoum, and to be honest they are completely different from the ones U see in the board, who are usually raised refugee camps in Kenya & Uganda and who have had no contact with mainland sudan
Whenever i visit Sudan i do hear dissenting voices against the injustice that have taken place against Southerners BUT no where near the scale and venom of what takes place here...thus it is safe to conclude that those on this and other forums are like al-Qaeda...a fringe group of lunatics who will resort to any means to get their voices heard but have zero impact in the mainstream
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() You know i was about to respond with almost identical thoughts...the reality is though that these Lunatics usually start off as small groups who are largely ignored but if an opportunity arises ( political unrest, poverty, unemployment, corruption etc etc ) where unsuspecting/vulnerable minds give an ear then this is the slippery slope to the possibility of genocide taking place....by the way i questioned the Mighty Jackal in regards to his signature and he just laughed it off....i also brought it to the attention of a Moderator who has now left ( McGee ) and he did absolutely nothing...he was more concerned about me referring to these same people as 'chimps' more than anything else...but can you imagine the uproar if i wrote down as my signature One Junubiy One Bullet????
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![]() Olive You probably remember all the fight we have with this guy and the other racists who endorse a signature like his. And those for years I have called Turabi's of the South. I didn't comment in this post up to now because the author is one of the most racists I have seen in this net. The hypocrite is blaming others for the same thing he is doing, calling people "Abid" and other degrading comments like "Al-rukun Al-tashadi" for those who disagreed with him in Darfur problem. Further, who is the one who argued for leaving people to label other others as kafirs even though we warned him that such labeling leads to the death of innocent people like it did in many mosques in Sudan. I have no respect, as you know, for the racist Almighty and other like Theone etc, but would be quite hypocrite himself if fails to mention this fact.
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Instead of using the thread for your typical misrepresentation of facts and character assassination rubbish, can you attempt to exhibit some decency by answering this simple question, Does the signature in question violate any laws or rules or no. ?
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Thanks Olive, As long as there are moderators who pay more attention to their personal vendettas than the well-being of the forum or forum rules or even common sense of what's decent and what's not, we're bound to suffer the fools (not so gladly).
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It may and it may not, depending on ones interpretation and ask Muaz why he considers it a freedom of speech. But, hypcrite, does it matter if it is a signature or in the mian text? Didn't you write racist comments in the main text? And how that was considered a "free speech" and other not simply because it is in the signature? Have you violated the rules by writing comments in your main text? And how come you still here?
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Who have we got here? The devil's nerd advocate? What meaning other than an (Arab should be shot), does this fragment convey to you? Sometimes people make real fools out of themselves while trying to seem (smart).
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Where is the personal vendettas here hypocrite. did I treat you differently? You are both damn racists and I have taken no side on this. Did moderators banned you for your racist comments and left him, or vise versa. Or are you mad because your hypocrisy was exposed?
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Not quite hypocrite. Can you tell what is difference between your racist comments and that of the other racist, Almighty or what ever his name is?
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I challenged him and his signature way before. If it is to me I will ban any racist comments. Others differ and see it in an other way .But, did't you glarify Takfir and wrote racist comments in this net and I challenged you on that. Wre you banned? You could have been gone along time ago. But answer my question: what is the difference between your racist comments and his? And why you defended your racist comments like "Abid" as something other than racist? And why did you defended your acceptance for Takfir as something not encouraging killing, just the same like this racist encourages killing Arabs?
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Actually, it has different connotations. It may mean an Arab should be shot, or it may mean an Arab can be powerful with one bullet in his gun. Lets think outside the box.
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There's no but. Do not derail the topic of this thread, please.
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What drailing idiot. All I am saying is you are as racist as the one your are accusing.
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I just gave two interpretations of the phrase, "One Arab One Bullet."
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Outside the box is one thing and OUT OF CONTEXT is another. You don't really think there's 1 in a million chance the author of this statement had meant "an Arab can be powerful with one bullet in his gun." do you?
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Well you either haven't followed the frequent outbursts of the person in question, or you do suffer selective memory syndrome.
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I do have selective memory, but I do not think there is such thing as a syndrome that attaches to that. Let's try to think impartially as we address the issue at hand.
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You don't seem to be interested in addressing the issue, which is incitement to racist murder. All you're doing is trying to look smart (thinking outside the box) when no (thinking outside the box) is warranted.
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No, I was merely suggesting that maybe he or she had other intentions. Whatever they may be...theres nothing wrong with being open minded and thinking outside the box...you should give it a try. Its far better than being closed minded. :-D ...Liberally speaking that is.
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This is my point. You could use them against your future enemy. An extremist is always an extremist. Let them be your devices to fight other extemists Yesterday their enemy was the muslim, today it is the jallaba, tomorrow is the dinka, and after that it who knows. An extremist always looks for an enemy, it becomes part of his character. Extremism knows no boundries it comes in all forms of ethnicities,religion & cultures Al qaeda was formed to fight the americans, when there were no americans to kill they turned against their own muslims as we saw in Iraq & saudi arabia. Hitler turned on the jews and slaughtered them, when all the jews perished he then turned on the white people themsleves. Why go far? John Garang hated arabs. He started the SPLA and killed many northerners. When they were no northerners left, his troops started on the other tribes, they massacred Gajak Nuer in 85 , they slaughtered the Munduri in equatoria and so on. It is the culture of having an enemy. John Garang was used as a good tool by the successive regimes for them to get more allies from the south. Thats how Mutip, Riak Machar, the Munduri militias formed.
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This "maybe" is baseless,because we know from the man's record that he is a bigot. Therefore you suggestion is invalid. Is your mind "open" enough to see this simple truth?
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Thanks for alerting We will see what actions will be taken. you are encouraged to use the feedback and complaints forum to contacts us. Also flooding the forum with similar psots is against the rules. I will remove your other posts and also will place this one where it should have been in the first place. Thanks again
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This is all good and I would like you to know that I had deliberately ignored the appropriate channel for complaints, because I thought the issue warrants a wide members debate. It's all an educating process. Apologies for the spamming and I seek excuse for my actions in the knowledge that extreme situations call for extreme measures. Thank you.
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Now this post has been edited and whole responses have gone missing hmmmmm interesting...second thoughts now they have returned
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Carl I think this post should stay where it is. As it is opening now a fruitful debate on freedom of expression and the its consequences. Atleast leave it for few days here
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